Get The Inside Scoop on LA Private Elementary School Admissions on Monday, June 4th!

Hi Friends!

Have you purchased your tickets yet for our event next Monday (June 4) at Romp in Hollywood. We have 8 spaces left! Porcha and I are excited to work with Sandy Eiges, a highly regarded educational consultant. We look forward to meeting you and having a great question/answer session!– Christina

 

Join Momangeles for an informative and fun evening at Romp, a fabulous kids play space in Hollywood as Christina Simon and Porcha Dodson co-authors of Beyond the Brochure,and Sandy Eiges of LA School Scout share their expertise about the private elementary school application process and answer your questions. Read Beyond The Brochure’s Q&A interview with Sandy Eiges here.

 

Monday, June 4, 2012. Discussion starts at 7:00 pm at Romp, 755 N. Highland, near Melrose.  Light appetizers served!

Topics will include:

- Selecting Which Schools To Visit

- The Parent Interview

- Your Child’s Visiting/Testing Day

- Letters of Recommendation

- When To Use The Phrase, “if accepted, we will enroll”

- What To Do If Your Child Is Wait-Listed

- Financial Aid 

 

For more information and to purchase tickets, visit:

http://demystifyingjune.eventbrite.com/

See what LA City Mom says about this event! She’s an LA private elementary school mom too.

Guest Blogger Jenny: The Private School End of the Year Marathon and My New (smaller) House

Jenny Heitz

Our fabulous contributor/guest blogger Jenny Heitz has been super-busy. She got married! She also moved to a new house in the hills of Los Feliz, from a bigger house in Hancock Park. Yes, that’s correct, Jenny downsized in L.A. (gasp!). Check out her new blog series about the new house and what she’s doing to fix it up on her style blog, Find A Toad. We know once it’s complete, Jenny’s unique, modern sense of style will transform her new space into a very cool family house! Unfortunately, she realized they moved without a coffee maker, but she found an awesome espresso maker that would make a great house-warming gift.

 

Meanwhile, end of the year at Mirman is upon her. Read on:

 

Once your kid has been in private school for at least a year, you recognize it: the end of the year slog toward the summer break finish line.

 

It’s as if all the private school powers that be got together and decided: enough learning, we must have ceremony, and lots of it! Thus, at Mirman, we had the Pops Concert, followed by the Spring Fair, followed by Colonial Day (presentations given by Room 5 students in full colonial regalia), followed by a music recital (skipped this; my daughter isn’t playing an instrument), followed by Open House (Mulholland and the 405 at rush hour: such fun). Soon, there’s a violin concert, the Upper School play, and then the massive number of matriculation and awards ceremonies. Finally, there’s Field Day, the final day of school that’s all about play.

 

Just reading the last paragraph, much less writing it, makes me long for a solid nap.  Don’t get me wrong, I love Mirman and what it’s done for my daughter, but driving up there from Los Feliz makes me break out in hives. And having to haul up there repeatedly over a two month span of time during critical traffic hours has brought new levels of road rage to the surface. What happened to spreading these things out, to moderation? Why was Open House the same night as Obama’s visit to George Clooney’s estate?  Why bother asking why? My daughter’s lucky to go there.

 

I’ve written in the past about how wonderful it is to have a bus route from the east side, so that we no longer have to carpool 4X a week. But, the bus has spoiled us rotten. Now that we don’t have to schlep up to the campus constantly, the occasional sojourn is that much more painful. While I realize that road construction is a temporary state of affairs, it has made the commute, even done occasionally, a total unpredictable nightmare.

 

I also wonder a bit about families with two intensely working parents: how do they cope? I work from home and have a flexible schedule; I still have a bad attitude about the drive and the constant events. How do doctors, lawyers, bankers, and anyone else with a “normal” job manage it? Are you tag teaming the events, or perhaps letting relatives fill in? Really, I want to know.

 

In the meantime, we will schlep. And slog. And clap for our matriculating kids. And, finally, welcome summer and some sort of sleeping in.

 

Jenny Heitz has worked as a staff writer for Coast Weekly in Carmel, freelanced in the South Bay, and then switched to advertising copywriting. Jenny is a graduate of Crossroads. Her daughter started 4th grade at Mirman School last year. She previously attended 3rd St. Elementary School. Jenny has been published recently in the Daily News and on Mamapedia, The Well Mom, Sane Moms, Hybrid Mom, The Culture Mom and A Child Grows In Brooklyn. She now writes about gift ideas and products on her blog, Find A Toad.

Guest Blogger “Emily”: Not Wealthy, Not Connected…Just Two Working Parents

Getting An Early Start

I still can’t believe that it’s over.

I remember distinctly the day it all began. I was standing outside after a preschool fundraising meeting with several other moms, and the conversation turned to private elementary school tours.  The first thing I felt was a pit in my stomach.  Was I behind the ball, again?  We had waited until very late in the game to find a preschool for our son.   I was in denial about the fact that he was even old enough for school, and truly in the dark about how competitive preschools were on the Westside.  So, at that moment, one and a half years before my son would start kindergarten, I told myself that there was no way we would be behind the ball on this one.   And so it began…

 

Touring Schools

I started touring schools in February of 2011.   The first step was learning about all of the different types of schools out there.  Where there good public options? What are these private schools like?  I toured them all, privates, charters, magnets, and parochial.   I knew nothing about educational philosophies, progressive vs. traditional, charter vs. magnet, or anything about the entire process.  I soon found myself creating files, Google doc. spreadsheets, and making calendars to hang on the fridge to keep track of all the tour dates and appointments.

 

It soon became clear to me that the lottery process of the public charter and magnet options was too random – too much to be left to chance, the luck of the draw.   And then when I started to tour the private schools, I couldn’t believe how beautiful some of these schools were, how progressive they were in their philosophies, and how much they had to offer.   Most seemed to have two full time teachers in each class.  A low teacher to student ratio always appealed to me. I knew that this type of education was something I wanted for my boy, and it became quickly clear that only a handful of publics might offer something similar, IF you were lucky enough to have your child’s name drawn out of their lottery fishbowl.

Stress!

As the process unfolded, my poor husband didn’t know what hit him.  Of course he was on board with getting our son into a great school, but really?  Tours, applications, parent interviews, and “playdates” for every school?  The process consumed me for over a year.  My husband was starting to tune out when I would bring up something about school in almost every single conversation we had.  I on the other hand loved it.   There was nothing I was more passionate about, nothing I was more committed to, nothing I wanted to think about or work towards more.

 

Written Applications

I found myself answering questions on written applications for the first time that I had never really thought about, like “what do you want in an education for your child?”  Or “why is this school the right school for your son?   And, “How would you like to be involved in our community?”  I really had no idea!  I just wanted a good education for him and a safe environment.  Little did I even know what a “good” education meant, really.  Our own education about elementary school education began.

 

Applying To Five Schools

We decided to apply to five private schools. Anything less than that seemed too risky.   I had read about how competitive it was to get into a good private elementary school, and how slim the chances are of getting accepted.  We only had acquaintances at a few of the schools.  We did not have connections, we are not in the industry, and we are not a family with deep pockets.  In fact, we were applying for financial aid.  I knew that this made our chances of getting in even worse, as the possibility of getting accepted AND getting aid would be slim.  This was all a real long shot.

 

We kept public school options in the picture, applying to several charters and a magnet school, but drew abysmal numbers in all of their lotteries. This was completely surreal.   (Really, you are drawing my son’s name out of a hat to determine his chance at a decent education??).

 

The entire application process was more work than I ever imagined. Just keeping track of parent interview dates, school “playdates”, and school events was an organizational challenge, and my husband and I both work full time jobs!  Now we literally had a third full time job.

 

Parent Interviews

The first parent interview was easy – a flowing and interesting conversation that gave us confidence for what was to follow.  The next interview was uncomfortable, forced, and formal.   Wow, I guess we blew it? ”Oh well, we were ourselves,” I thought, although it was a slightly uncomfortable feeling, like a job interview where you feel like you didn’t nail it. I never felt like we needed to pretend to be something we weren’t, or that we needed to over-prepare.  If they didn’t like us, or think our son was great, then this school was not for us! I truly felt that throughout the process.  I never really stressed about how we “performed” as much as I stressed about the numbers (this many families applying for this few spots?)  I stressed that it seemed like an inside game, and that we really didn’t know families that went to these schools.  I stressed that we didn’t have any specific talents, connections, or wealth to bring to the school.  We are what you might call a “normal” family.   Not wealthy, not connected, not Ivy-League educated… just your average family with two working parents and one beloved little boy.

 

Staying Sane

I approached the whole thing like it was the project of my life. For better or worse, I am a research fanatic and over-think just about all major things in my life (one might say obsess about).  Getting married, buying a house, having a child.  This felt like the biggest so far – a crucially important move that could forever shape my son’s future.  I read Beyond The Brochure, the book and the blog religiously, posting comments and questions whenever I needed advice or just needed to be heard.  My friends and family could only help so much.  Nobody knew what I was going through except the other moms from school, and we all relied on each other heavily for emotional support and to keep the faith.  I found my mom friends to be invaluable during the process, and although we were essentially competing for some of the same spots, we were all super supportive of each other.  All of the good mojo, advice, information, and comfort we were providing each other would pay off for all of us!  And it did.  I kept my local wine shop in business too.

 

My Son’s Visiting Day

The playdates or visiting days were the next big stressor.  My son has always struggled a bit with separation, and I thought for sure that one of the visits would end in screams and tears.  He even told me before one that he did not want to go and that he would “scream the whole time.”  Awesomely ironic, I thought.  Luckily they all went flawlessly and his threats were idle.  Besides, if a school doesn’t understand that kids have meltdowns and bad days, and that the whole thing is just strange to them, then we don’t want to go there anyway! That took the pressure off for me.

 

Leaving Nothing To Chance

After the interviews and visits, we really started to feel the vibe of each school.  It was becoming apparent that some felt more comfortable than others, that some continued to impress us more, and some didn’t feel quite as right for our family.  Our favorites were rising to the top.  I diligently wrote thank you notes to the admissions directors and after every event we attended (my budget for thank you cards skyrocketed!).  I asked acquaintances we barely knew to put in a word for us, which was slightly uncomfortable at first, but what did we have to lose?  I had to get over my fear of rejection quickly.

We were really uncomfortable with the whole “first choice” thing.  Did we really need to pick one and tell them those words? (YOU are our first choice!)  My husband and I had different top three lists (mine based more on gut feeling and reputation, his more on commute and school administration). This was so hard, the thought of picking a top choice and communicating that to the school. This was something I agonized over incessantly towards the end.   We decided to not tell any school they were our top choice specifically, but to sincerely express our strong interest to each.  How confusing!!  (I told friends I felt like a serial dater who cannot commit!)

 

Our Financial Aid Applications

The financial aid piece was another huge part of the puzzle. For us, an offer of enrollment without aid would be no offer at all.  The paperwork required was extensive and detailed.  Each school had different forms and a slightly different deadline for submission.  If you are applying for aid, start early by putting together a budget – how much comes in and how much goes out. You will have to submit this to the school, and it is not necessarily something that is easy to pull together overnight (including the documentation they require).

 

As the March 23rd “D-day” loomed, I started to feel remarkably calm.  There came a point where we had done all that we could do, and fate would handle the rest.  Besides, I had read time and time again, being waitlisted is not a death sentence to entry, right?  I DID stalk the postman and check my e-mail incessantly that Friday and Saturday.

 

Getting Our Admissions Letters

The first e-mail arrived early Saturday morning.   Wow, it was a letter of acceptance from a highly coveted Westside school – the one where we thought the parent interview as a disaster! What a surprise!  Then, the next one rolled in… offer #2 from one of our top choices.  This was unexpected.  Really, we got into more than one?

 

When the mail finally arrived at noon, we could not believe our eyes when we saw four large envelopes and one small one.   We got into four out of the five schools to which we applied!   YES! We did!  As we opened each envelope, we started to read the details…. “We are happy to welcome you to Wildwood!  However, due to X, Y, and Z, we are unable to offer you financial aid at this time…”

 

A Financial Aid Twist

Four offers… but only ONE accompanied by an offer of AID.  This was something I NEVER expected. If they didn’t have aid to give, and we applied for it, why wouldn’t they just send us a rejection letter?    Hmmmm, we started to think…. Is this a test?  Do some families apply for aid, don’t get it, and then come up with the money some other way?   We concluded that this must be the case. But for us, there was no plan B to finance this deal.

 

My gut to apply to five schools was solid. I knew that the combination of getting in, AND getting in with aid would be tough.   I had heard that the number of families applying for aid was on the rise because of the economy, and at the same time, there were fewer funds available for aid because of the economy.

 

Making A Very Important Phone Call

For a moment, we thought, well that’s it! The ONE school that offered us aid is the one that chose us. And we really liked this school!  But it was not one of our top choices.  After thinking about it and talking to friends and family, we thought, why not call and see if this is negotiable?  Is the rejection of aid a done deal?  Or is this something that can be revisited?  Discussed?

 

Good News!

I contacted the school that I just could not turn my back on. The one that in the end, really felt like my top choice.   I had a wonderful conversation with the school director, and the door was open. We thought this school was an amazing choice for our son and absolutely loved it from day one, but without financial assistance, it was impossibility.    Monday was the deadline.    We had one great school that offered us aid, and my number one choice couldn’t let us know until Monday afternoon.   This was insane!   I was literally working from home that day, waiting for the call.  Was I driving a deposit check over to school A, or to school B?

Happiness

The call came at 1:30 p.m..  Our top choice school was able to revisit the situation and offer us aid!   It was an amount that made it feasible for our family (albeit still a big stretch!).   I took a deep breath, got in the car, and drove a check over to my son’s new school.   I was shaking filling out some of the paperwork…. I couldn’t believe this was finally happening!  Was this for real? The school we ultimately chose and that my son will be attending this fall, was a school that seemed like the ultimate long shot in the beginning.  We are thrilled with the outcome and still in disbelief that not only is the search over, but we got our little boy into that amazing school.

 

And now, a new chapter begins.

 

“Emily Summers” is a Westside mom who will have a son attending a popular Santa Monica private school in September.

* names and identifying characteristics have been changed due to the sensitivity of financial aid.  

Event: “Demystifying the Private Elementary School Admissions Process” at Romp, Hollywood

Hi Friends!

Join Momangeles for an informative and fun evening at Romp, a fabulous kids play space in Hollywood as Christina Simon and Porcha Dodson co-authors of Beyond the Brochure,and Sandy Eiges of LA School Scout share their expertise about the private elementary school application process and answer your questions. Read Beyond The Brocure’s Q&A interview with Sandy Eiges here.

 

Monday, June 4, 2012. Discussion starts at 7:00 pm.

 

Topics will include:

- Selecting Which Schools To Visit

- The Parent Interview

- Your Child’s Visiting/Testing Day

- Letters of Recommendation

- When To Use The Phrase, “if accepted, we will enroll”

- What To Do If Your Child Is Wait-Listed

- Financial Aid 

For more information and to purchase tickets, visit:

 

http://demystifyingjune.eventbrite.com/

Third Grade Native American Study Unit at The Willows Community School

Third graders at The Willows Community School presented the culmination of their Native American Study Unit, designed to enhance their knowledge of Native American culture.  My son and his classmates worked on a series of classroom projects that included writing assignments, iSearch technology and art. The photos below show the amazing baskets, woven from looms the kids created on a paper plate in art class. The kids loved constructing and playing in the teepee.

Baskets woven by 3rd graders on looms created on paper plates

Teepee

Teepee

 

Guest Blogger Audrey: Starting Preschool, Now What? Thinking Ahead To Elementary School Admissions

Whether a working or stay-at-home parent, there are various tips to prepare for the private school admission process once your child begins preschool.

 

Begin to look at your child’s personality as it relates to learning style, social interactions and emerging interests.  Talk to your preschool teachers on a regular basis, asking open-ended questions about listening skills, responsiveness when asked to complete a task, interactions with friends, new talents, etc.  Keep in mind that your child may act differently at school than at home.

 

For instance, when my daughter was 3-years old I perceived her as having the personality of a follower but at a parent/teacher conference I was told that she was equally comfortable as a leader and a follower and a source of comfort to friends.  For working parents without as much opportunity to interact with teachers, find out if they’re willing to give you an e-mail address so you can touch base more often.  What you’re ultimately looking for is in what school environment would your child best thrive.  A few examples are structured, academic, progressive, a very small school (with only one class per grade) or artsy.

 

Attend as many preschool events as possible.  This can provide opportunities to interact with families who have older children already at a private school and also to network with other parents who are usually eager to exchange information.  Approach parents who have a private school’s bumper sticker on their car or have older children who come to drop off or pick up and find out what school their child attends.  Ask about their experiences, what they like/dislike about the school, etc.  I had never heard of any of the private schools to which we applied before my daughter was in her 2nd year of preschool and they came by word-of-mouth from fellow parents at our school.

 

Volunteer at your preschool, if possible.  For working parents, this could involve helping at weekend or evening events.  This not only increases your contact with other involved parents who may be in a similar situation but also it has the potential to look good on your private school application résumé.

 

Create a good relationship with your preschool director.  Directors can be one of your closest allies when it comes time to apply to private schools.  Not only should they have their pulse on the best private schools and what each offers but also on which would be a good fit for your child.

 

Attend a kindergarten panel if your preschool offers one.  At my daughter’s preschool this consisted of an evening program where current and former parents with children at various local private, public and charter schools spoke about their school’s philosophy, admission process and personal experience.  During the Fall or Spring, attend the Los Angeles Area Independent Elementary School’s Kindergarten Fair.  Admission Directors from most of L.A.’s private elementary schools are present to answer questions about their programs and admission process.

 

Do online research.  If your child is even two years away from kindergarten, many schools will not allow you to tour until the year prior to kindergarten.   Look at each school’s mission and philosophy statement on their website.  Does it seem to fit with what you want for your child?  Check on tuition, uniform policy, or anything else that is important to your family.

 

Consider if you will want to enroll your child at a private school with a Pre-K program (often called DK, TK, or EK).  This may be a factor depending on your child’s birthday (many schools have a summer cut-off) as this will move your timeline up by a year.

 

Last but not least, enjoy this precious time in your toddler’s life!

 

Audrey Young has a background in Healthcare Compliance where she performed detailed research and analysis.  She is a native of Los Angeles and attended public schools and universities.  Her private school admission experience set in motion a desire to help guide parents through this process and ease any confusion, fear and anxiety.  She is launching an admission consulting business, The Admission Team, and will be available to families applying for the 2013-14 school year and beyond.  Audrey can be reached at theadmissionteam@gmail.com.  Her daughter will be attending Kindergarten at Viewpoint School in September.

 


 

 

 

Please join us! “Demystifying the Private Elementary School Admissions Process” June 4 at Romp in Hollywood

Hi Friends!

Join Momangeles for an informative and fun evening at Romp, a fabulous kids play space in Hollywood as Christina Simon and Porcha Dodson co-authors of Beyond the Brochure,and Sandy Eiges of LA School Scout share their expertise about the private elementary school application process and answer your questions. Read Beyond The Brochure’s Q&A interview with Sandy Eiges here.

 

Monday, June 4, 2012. Discussion starts at 7:00 pm.

 

Topics will include:

- Selecting Which Schools To Visit

- The Parent Interview

- Your Child’s Visiting/Testing Day

- Letters of Recommendation

- When To Use The Phrase, “if accepted, we will enroll”

- What To Do If Your Child Is Wait-Listed

- Financial Aid 

For more information and to purchase tickets, visit:

 

http://demystifyingjune.eventbrite.com/

The World Meets France in Los Feliz: Lycée International de Los Angeles (Pre-K-12)

Parlez-Vous Francais? Oui! At Lycee International de Los Angeles 

Lycée International de Los Angeles, Los Feliz

“Bringing Up Bebe”, the bestselling book by Pamela Druckerman was the topic of a fabulous luncheon I attended recently, hosted by Lycee International de Los Angeles (LILA) and Launch Education Group at The Little Door. Before the event, I toured LILA, a wonderful, developmental Pre-K-12 in Los Feliz.

Elizabeth Chaponot, LILA head of school and Christina Simon (photo: www.miajphoto.com)

As we ate the Little Door’s superb food, Elizabeth Chaponot, the French/American head of school at LILA, spoke about the differences between French and American education and how LILA achieves the delicate balance of blending the two educational influences and cultures.

 

Elizabeth is an experienced educator and a mom, with impressive credentials and a passion for education. Her family founded LILA, she’s a graduate of the school and now she’s continuing the tradition. Elizabeth pointed out that at the school, she approaches French parents differently than she does their American counterparts. With American parents, she told us, she often begins with talking about the child’s unique qualities like their sense of humor or other characteristics. French parents, she said, want to know how their child is doing in school, but don’t expect continual feedback on their child’s attributes. American parents also place a premium on extracurricular actives like sports to a greater extent than many French parents. So, part of her job at LILA is to unify the distinct parenting and educational values of these two very different cultures.

Author Sarah Maizes at The Little Door (photo: Mia J. Photography)

Giving a quintessentially American perspective on the bestselling book, “Bringing Up Bebe,” Sarah Maizes, author of Got Milf? The Modern Mom’s Guide To Feeling Fabulous, Looking Great and Rocking a Minivan, is a triple threat: mom of three, author and comedian. She writes the parenting humor site, Mommy Lite Online. Sarah talked about writing the review of the book for the Today Show Moms and what she learned by reading it. She also talked about her own kids and the unique parenting challenges that come with twins and a daughter with Asperberger’s, who became the inspiration for her new children’s book, On My Way To The Bath due out in June.

Juliette Lange, LILA admissions coordinator, Matt Steiner, Launch Education Group and Christina Simon at The Little Door (photo: Mia J. Photography)

Although my two years of college French are long forgotten, touring LILA with Juliette Lange, the charming and friendly admissions coordinator, I was pleasantly surprised that I recognized a few familiar phrases from days gone by, as ridiculously cute children darted by speaking the most adorable French.

Mia Johnstone (LA Private School Guide/photographer) and Christina Simon at The Little Door

Noelle Orsini, The Kelter Center and Christina Simon at The Little Door (photo: Mia J. Photography)

LILA is a great option for families who are looking for a developmental dual immersion school. Students are taught to read, write and speak both French and English by the end of elementary school. However, the goal is to offer more than “mere knowledge of two languages. The ultimate goal is to form bi-literate students capable of functioning in two linguistic worlds, according to LILA. Families at LILA truly embrace French language, culture and diverse cultures at the school. A quarter of the school is comprised of French nationals and there are students from 48 nationalities.

 

Founded by Progressive educators in 1979, the school has grown to four campuses (Los Feliz, Pasadena, Orange County and West Valley). The school is accredited by the French Ministry of Education, The Western Association of Schools and Colleges and The International Bacculaurate.

In a Kindergarten classroom

LILA is a Pre-K-12,  private school nestled on six acres in Los Feliz. The campus is instantly welcoming and low-key. It buzzes with with student excitement. The one-story buildings contain large, bright classrooms containing with smart boards. Teacher’s assignments and the student’s work decorate the walls. When I arrived, the school day was in full swing.

The garden at LILA serves as a place of learning and inspiration

Sitting a the edge of the campus is a huge, vibrant school garden that’s part of a bigger community garden. This glorious greenery lends the school nature’s greenery. Students help grow a wide assortment of fruit, vegetables and flowers. It’s a magical place where seedlings and plump, ready-to-pick fruit are examples of the kids’ efforts.

Earthly Delight!

Here are a few things to know about LILA:
  • Learning is project based at LILA
  • There are 2 grades per class, 450 students
  • A new secondary campus is in the works in Burbank, to move the secondary campus to a new location
  • The point of entry is Pre-K or K unless fluent in French
  • Tuition is approximately $14K per year for Kindergarten. Financial aid is available for up to 50% of tuition
  • LILA is more than a language immersion program, it’s a cultural immersion program
  • Graduates from the school attend top U.S. and international colleges and universities, including Columbia, Stanford, NYU, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, Brown, McGill University, Oxford University, Sorbonne, Universite Paris and more
  • LILA emphasizes community and the sharing of cultures

Oh, so pretty!

If you are considering a dual-immersion French-English school, visit LILA and see for yourself this unique, sprawling school on a gently sloping hill in Los Feliz. LILA puts a worldly spin on education!  C’est magnifique!

 

For more information, visit, Lycée International De Los Angeles

Photos: Mia J. Photography and Christina Simon

 

Please join us at the UCLA Family Commons for Mother’s Week Event!

Hi Friends!

The UCLA Family Commons is hosting a series of FREE events in celebration of Mother’s Week!

 

On Tuesday evening, May 7th, 6-8 p.m,  I will be joining some of my favorite L.A. mom bloggers to talk about any topic that’s on our (or your) minds! So, stop by and chat about private elementary schools…have a question about your school search or the admissions process? I’d be happy to discuss with you!

 

I also signed up for the free Self-Defense class…let’s hope I never need to use it!

- Christina